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Southern
Lord is a label that is generally associated with but one
word: DOOM. Operated by Thorr's Hammer/SUNN0))) mainstays Greg
Anderson (Goatsnake, Thorr's Hammer) and Stephen O'Malley (Burning
Witch, Khanate), SL has been unleashing the lowest and slowest
metal around since 1998. They've put out all of the above-mentioned
bands, as well as Warhammer, Sourvein and Boris. You might also
have heard of the album they've got coming out in February: a
long-anticipated project called Probot, otherwise known as none
other than Dave Grohl?
Anyway, Greg very generously took time out from his ridiculously
hectic schedule to provide the initiated with some insights
into the releasing of some of the heaviest and most intense
music currently being made.
Why Southern Lord as a name for your label? Apart from liquor,
is there any significance to the reference to the American South?
Actually it was initially a reference to Southern Comfort, Stephen and I were
known to indulge in that beverage a lot back in the daze... hahah, but really
I just picked it as it sounded cool... powerful.
I'm under the impression that you started the label with Stephen
O'Malley in order to self-release records by Thorr's Hammer and
Burning Witch when others wouldn't go through with it. Is that
correct?
Pretty much. We both wanted those projects to see the light of day, and figured
the best way was to do it ourselves. Then the label (d)evolved into a outlet
for Stephen and I's musical offerings.
How do you feel about how the label has progressed since those
early days? Did you have any kind of masterplan to reach the
lofty position that SL finds itself in currently?
From the beginning we've had the attitude of: lets fucking release intense
music and see what happens... pretty low-key actually. We've been fortunate
to have developed a cult following, and put out some fucking amazing recordings.
Were you been inspired by any labels in terms of style/ambition/enthusiasm?
Yeah Early Earache, Moonfog, Touch and Go, early Rise Above, were some labels
that were inspiring in different ways to us.
What kind of a role has the internet played regarding your
label? Some people these days operate exclusively via the net,
whilst others are still very much mail order based. What's your
stance?
The internet is a humongous part of Southern Lord. The quick exchange of information
and ideas, as well as being able to sell and market your releases is completely
invaluable. I don't think Southern Lord would be operating at the same level
it is without the internet.
Is downloading killing music? Do you harbour any strong feelings
sympathetic to or against the RIAA?
I think at this level, downloading music is not doing any harm. Maybe the majors
are feeling a sting... but I think the underground may even be benefiting from
downloads and digital sharing of recordings.
Do you feel much affiliation with any community with regards
to the music that you create/release?
Yeah... I don't know what I would call that community (i.e. labels) but there
is definitely a certain audience for what were doing, and we're grateful for
their support.
Just how many bands or projects have you got going on at the
moment?
Existing bands... I dunno, a handful. We've released about 30 full-length
CDs, ten 7"s and a few vinyl-only 12" releases.
Has Southern Lord become a full-time
enterprise for you yet? You seem to be out playing with bands
regularly, yet have always managed to increase SL's output – an
impressive feat.
Thanks... yes, Southern Lord has consumed my life. It's an obsession. Luckily
I do this full time without having to get a 'regular' job, but I work here
at the office about 12-14 hours a day.
If you hadn't have started Southern Lord, where do you think
you would be today?
Working in music distribution somewhere. Probably not happy with it.
Has there ever been a time when you felt like calling it a
day, that the label was too much trouble?
No not for that reason, but yes because of finances.
Where have you found bands you've released stuff by so far?
Are most of your signings friends, or do you get demos etc sent
to you? Do you ask the bands or do they ask you?
Mostly it's us seeking out a band, or putting out our friends, or our own material.
Very rarely we get a demo and then want to work with a band, but it has happened
(Warhorse, Orcustus).
Speaking of which, do you have any hot musical tips for us
at the moment?
Check out Wendy Carlos. Amazing!!
Who decides on artwork for your releases? Do you have a particular
design policy or format you like to adhere to? Obviously, there
is a lot of iconography associated with the heavier aspects of
metal! Oh, and how the hell did you get that gummy worm in the
spine of Boris' 'Amplifier Worship' CD?
Stephen O' Malley is in charge of 95% of the design, the only covers he has
NOT designed are: Place of Skulls - 'With Vision', Spaceboy - 'Searching' and
Grief - 'Turbulent Times'. The gummy worm slithered into 'Amplifier Worship'
by itself!!
Vinyl vs CD in one final grudgematch. Who wins?
It's a tie. Vinyl wins for overall aesthetic and presentation, CDs win for
being able to play at excruciating volumes.
Southern Lord is distributed in Europe by Southern Records
- how did that relationship come about?
When Goatsnake toured the UK for the first time, we stayed with Allison, the
manager of Southern. We got to talking and she was very into what we were doing.
That's about it.
What's your opinion on the importance of press and media coverage?
Do you have any particular policies on how to get it?
Well honestly I'm not really crazy about servicing media. It seems that most
the mags/journalists you give your music to (for free) don't give a shit about
it. So it becomes a waste of money. But of course it's a necessary evil as
there are some that do care, and it's of course necessary to get the word out
on your releases. In a ideal world, a writer would buy the music, write about
it 'cuz it affected him in a certain way, and then the label would support
the mag by buying a ad... not this pay-to play bullshit way that most mags
work, with writers who are writing about the music just because they have been
'assigned' it and really don't give a shit about it and end up selling it anyhow.
Do you any sage advice for anyone interested in starting up
their own label?
Don't do it for the cash or recognition. Do it because you need to do it, 'cuz
you love it, 'cuz if you don't do it you will die a worthless death... 'cuz
its in your blood, your passion etc.
Finally, what would be your dream release – which
band, which format, and how would it be packaged?
Hmm... here's a few:
High on Fire
Melvins
Slint
Miles Davis (something from the early seventies)
...and the packaging? I dunno. I'm sure Stephen would do something amazing.
As
well as the Southern
Lord website, check out
Stephen O'Malley's personal design site at
www.ideologic.org -
he's currently got MP3s for download, which he's cycling on a regular basis...
currently including a Khanate radio session (?!) and a couple of live recordings
of Sunn0)))! Oh yeah, it's got some nice artwork lurking around in it too.
Also, don't forget Dave Stockwell's Southern Lord-themed column.
Interview by Dave Stockwell
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