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Explosions' music has often been tarred with the 'post rock'
brush - I've even seen your last album advertised in Camden, London
as "The American Mogwai!" (which I think was intended
as a good thing). How do you feel about such genre-tags - do they
frustrate you at all?
ms: I think at first this frustrated us, but not so much any more.
The example you gave is a good one--we would see our name advertised
on posters all over Europe as "sounds like GY!BE/Mogwai"
or "Texas post-rock, like Mogwai".... I think it's probably
obvious that we don't want to be just like those bands or seen as
just like them, but in a strange way this can also be helpful. For
example, in Europe we are complete nobodies. We had never done a
tour over there and you can't even find our album in most places.
The only way anybody could hear about us in many places is through
word of mouth or over the internet. So in these places kids would
see the posters and since they liked Mogwai or Godspeed or post-rock,
they would come to our shows. And then they'd talk to us afterwards
and say; "I had never heard of you, but I enjoyed the show."
So that kid would never have come to our show if it weren't for
the comparison or genre tag.
The whole 'post rock sound' of instrumental bands like yours
appears to have been pushed closer and closer to the mainstream
in the last couple of years, with artists such as Sigur Ros and
to some extent Godspeed You! Black Emperor breaking through to a
wider audience through touring with mainstream-accepted "art"
bands like Radiohead & Sonic Youth, and inclusion on soundtracks
for films such as Cameron Crowe's "Vanilla Sky" and Danny
Boyle's "28 Days Later". Do you have any concerns about
its growing influence, and the effect that mainstream exposure &
exploitation could have on it, a decade on from the collapse of
so-called 'grunge'?
ms: I'm not sure I have much to say about this.... I guess I was
maybe a bit surprised at how popular Godspeed and Sigur Ros and
Mogwai have become, but I don't think it's a bad thing or anything,
not by any means. Maybe it's harder to keep control of the situation
than I think (we haven't experienced much of it), but it doesn't
seem like it would be that hard for a so-called post-rock band to
deal with some measure of success. A band like us is not going to
be in many magazines or on MTV, which is where most bands seem to
go downhill (changing their sound, dumbing down their music, etc.).
But anyway, to answer your question, I personally have no concerns
about this type of music having more acceptance. For one thing,
I don't think about it much. For another thing, it doesn't really
seem like it could get much bigger. Since most bands that fall into
this category have no vocals, they're only going to "go"
so far. At least that's my guess. So be it.
I presume that a band of Explosions' stature, despite your ever-burgeoning
profile, means that you guys have to hold down jobs when you're
not touring (incessantly). What kind of work are you involved in?
And how the hell do you get that time off to do your (much appreciated)
tours?
ms: Munaf and Michael both work in video stores (different ones),
Chris is looking for a job (he's worked for the last couple of years
at a bookstore), and I do copyediting of college textbooks. The
way we get time off from our jobs is that we simply quit them (and
then find new jobs when we get back from tour). It's not the easiest
life, but I don't really see any way around it at this point in
our lives.
Now that you've returned to Midland intact, what are your plans
once you've managed to stand the sight of one another again? When
are you planning on venturing into a recording studio again, and
what results can we expect?
ms:
We actually have moved back to Austin (well, I'm in Dallas right
now for the holidays and I won't be moving back to Austin until
next week). So at this very moment in time, we're not even playing
together. It's a nice rest after the touring, but we all want to
play again. I have no idea what you can expect, because we don't
know. Our goal is a new record. We have a number of completed songs,
and we want another one or two. We'll start playing again in Austin
right after the New Year, and when we record depends on how well
it goes when we start playing again. We've said in a couple interviews
that we think this album will have a more romantic feel and sound,
but I think that's because a couple of the stories for the songs
somehow revolve around love and relationships. Of course, several
of the other stories center around death and desperation and sadness
and tragedy, so there's that too.
Can you shed any light on what happened to the proposed 7"
on Zeal? The project appears to have vanished into thin air...
ms: I'm afraid we still don't have a definite answer for this yet.
Seems pretty sad, I think, since we've talked about doing it for
about two years (we'd like to give our sincere apologies to Geert
who runs Zeal, for bearing
with us). We probably shouldn't have talked about it until it was
done--the two songs that we wanted to do for it (a reworked "Remember
Me As A Time Of Day" and a song we've had for a long time that
has a name but we'll probably change the name of) have kind of been
put by the wayside. We didn't think the reworked "Remember
Me..." was good enough to warrant release, and we go back and
forth on the other song. Right now we're just wanting to work on
making the next record, and then we'll figure out if we can do something
else.
Every band member has a tattoo of the angel from the sleeve
of 'Those Who Tell The Truth...' on his wrist. Does this represent
a permanent bond or anything special for all of you to Explosions
in the Sky, or was it just that the image was good?
ms: We like to say (half-joking) that the tattoos are our wedding
bands. The image means a lot to us. Even though none of us are religious,
there's something about that angel and the story behind it (the
angel of Mons) that really hit us. I can't really describe how great
it felt when we were working on "Those who tell the truth..."
It was all we cared about - we finally were able to make the songs
we wanted to make. It felt like there was more to our world and
the world than these terrible jobs and family problems and being
broke all the time. When we would finish a song and it would be
like we wanted it to be, it was the most triumphant feeling there
is. We could see the angel in the sky: the hopefulness, the beauty.
We just all really consider ourselves lucky to have found each other.
I think perhaps our friends and families thought it was strange
that we all got the same tattoo, like we had joined a street gang
or something. But I've never questioned or regretted it once. It's
a bit of a daily comfort to look down at it, as silly as that sounds.
But what happens if you have a 20-album career? Can we at all
reasonably expect you to be become closer to the status of Tattooed
Men of Rock with every new release?
ms: I'm not sure about the tattoos, but I'm pretty interested in
the other part of your question. We have no idea how long this can
last--whether we have two or twenty albums in us, or if we'll even
be able to finish this next album to our satisfaction. The way we
have worked is to always make every decision unanimously. There
is no majority vote--if we're not all completely in favor of something,
then we don't do it. That makes it really difficult sometimes and
of course we fight. We've thrown away countless riffs or even whole
songs because one of us is not blown away by it. So no matter how
long we go on, I think we'll always be fairly slow songwriters.
But we do know that we will only put out what means the most to
us.
Finally, how's your van doing? Is she still roadworthy?
ms: Well, we're not sure. We drive it around town and it seems
to be okay... but the power windows don't roll down, the odometer
and speedometer don't work, the gas gauge doesn't work, and the
engine makes a whirring sound when you accelerate. As much trouble
as it has been, and as much money as we've had to pay to repair
it, we actually really like the van. It's really comfortable. It
will be hard to part with. We haven't yet decided if we'll try to
take it out on the road again.
As a farewell, Mark wished to give a message to the readers:
...If there is anybody reading this who likes us, then thank you
and we're sorry we are often in shambles and chaos. What I mean
is that we haven't been able to release as much music as we'd like
and we never update our web page and we aren't able to get everywhere
we want to on tour.... but I promise we're trying to do the best
we can. Also, if you haven't gotten the new Iron & Wine record,
you may wish to do so because it's clearly the most beautiful thing
created in several years. Thank you and best wishes for the New
Year.
Explosions in the Sky
Temporary Residence
interview and live photo by Dave
Stockwell
Band photo from Temporary Residence website
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