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Explosions
in the Sky are a band from Texas, playing sad loud instrumental
epic music designed to soundtrack our dreams and nightmares. At
the end of August 2001 they released their first album to be pressed
in quantities of more than 250, 'Those Who Tell The Truth Shall
Die, Those Who Tell The Truth Shall Live Forever'. Since then the
USA has seen them tour mercilessly alongside the likes of Fugazi
and ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead. Between the months
of September and December 2002, they left their shores to tour overseas
for the first time, visiting most of Europe as well as a brief trip
to Taiwan.
The band managed to come over for 5 shows in the UK and Ireland,
and this interview was scheduled to take place the night they played
the Toynbee Hall Arts Cafe in London - September 17th. Unfortunately,
that never happened: the band's van broke down and they arrived
at the gig with barely enough time to set up onstage and play, let
alone chat freely about wings and dings. However, thanks to the
abundantantly fantastic nature of internet communication, EITS guitarist
Mark Smith and I have known each other for the best part of three
years now, and over aftershow bagels on Brick Lane that night he
assented to conducting the most thorough and definitive interview
the band have ever undertaken via the highly wonderful form of email:
First of all, how have the last four months (!) of touring been?
You've been all around a lot of Europe, and recorded a radio session
for the John Peel show on BBC Radio One. What were your impressions,
and any abiding memories?
mark smith: It was exhausting but truly amazing (and by the way,
it was actually a mere three months of touring). It still baffles
us that just because we picked up some guitars and some drums, we
get to travel to places like Croatia and Taiwan. We know we're pretty
lucky and we don't take it for granted. Even though this was the
longest tour we've ever done, I think we maybe argued the least
amount on this one and were able to mostly have a good time, no
doubt united by the sheer spectacle of new places and beautiful
cathedrals and old towns on rivers. Also for the first time we had
someone else with us on tour--we had a fantastic driver/soundman
named Jochem on the European dates.
The John
Peel session went pretty smoothly (Peel himself wasn't there,
but David Bowie was recording in one of the studios there and we
saw him), although we are fairly hopeless when it comes to going
into the studio. We often panic and tense up and mess up a lot.
And to be perfectly honest, I don't even think our session sounds
that great... which is no doubt our fault, or maybe because it went
though the compression of radio.
People were pretty much absurdly nice and generous to us all over
Europe, but the people of Belgium truly floored us with their hospitality
and how much at home they made us feel, so that was a definite favorite.
But pretty much everywhere everybody was great. Also one thing we
noticed about most European and Taiwanese audiences is that they
seem to pay more attention to the bands than some U.S. audiences.
Many times the people would sit on the floor or sit at tables and
simply watch the show, rather than talking to their friends. This
was really nice. One of our favorite shows was at this Italian cinema--we
played where the screen was and the audience sat in theater seats
and watched us as though we were the movie. Of course there was
one guy who fell asleep in the front row during our show. We also
had some bad times, but the good memories are what have stuck with
us. We're really looking forward to hopefully touring Europe (and
hopefully some more Asian dates and of course lots of U.S. dates)
again next fall.
You also paid a brief visit to Taiwan in October, a place where
few bands appear to have ventured. How was the experience for you?
ms: This too was without a doubt one of our best experiences ever.
We had absolutely no idea what to expect whatsoever, because, as
you said, we don't know of any other bands who have gone over there
(although we learned that Cat Power and Dirty Three have gone over
there too). The people who brought us were this collective of about
15 kids called the White Wabbit Collective, and they have a club
and a record shop and record label and they do distribution also.
W
e wanted to practically weep with joy at how nice the kids all
were. They're all between the ages of about 16 to about 23 and they
all ride around on motorcycles and they're all the best of friends
and they hang out with each other every day. They took us to a hot
springs and they cut our hair and we basically just had a great
time. We played two shows in their club and they both sold out (about
300 people each, I think). They promoted the shows insanely well--we
even had a full-page article/interview in the country's main English-speaking
newspaper. And they had posters everywhere and there was a big display
of our records in the Tower Records over there. We were pretty blown
away, to say the least.
One of the last stops of your mammoth tour was an appearance
at the CMJ festival. How did the show go?
ms: The show went well, I suppose. It was at a place called the
Lyceum in Brooklyn. It was pretty fantastic to see Jeremy Devine
[who helped record and released Explosions' last album] and a lot
of the other bands from Temporary Residence. But at a show like
that, there are always time constraints and it always feels rushed.
Each band had forty minutes, and we played last, and we ended up
with even less time, I think. In fact the sound guy even left right
before our set, because he had to be at another show, but luckily
Caleb from Cerberus Shoal and Chris from Sonna were able to do our
sound. And of course we didn't play so well--both Munaf and I broke
strings and had to scramble to find different guitars and Chris
broke his bass drum pedal and ran off the stage in the middle of
the set to find a new one. It was fairly chaotic. We love playing
New York so we just wished we had done better.
You must have met a lot of bands on your travels - any in particular
we should know about and/or check out?
ms: In a word: souvaris.
They're great! Oh yes, but you already know about them [they're
hosted by diskant, after all]. In Italy (in the garage of some guy's
house in a town I can't remember the name of) we had the great pleasure
of playing with the Microphones.
they're on k Records and it's just one guy (Phil Elvrum). We had
never heard anything by him/them and he played this beautiful set
with just him and an acoustic guitar in the darkened garage with
four candles laid out before him. We bought some records from him
and he has now pretty much become Chris's and my favorite band in
the world. On some of the U.S. dates, we played with a band called
We Ragazzi, who are really
good friends and a great band. And we played with some of our labelmates
at the CMJ show, but you probably already know about them.
At the start of the year, the band relocated to Midland, TX.
Was the move purely for financial reasons, and how have you found
your new surroundings? Are they any more conducive to writing new
material, as was the plan?
ms: I think this was one of the best moves we could have made.
It came up pretty much for financial reasons... we were all (and
we all remain) pretty broke, and Austin TX is a relatively expensive
place to live. I remember one of us said one day; "Do you remember
the prices for apartments in Midland?" and that pretty much
made our decision (housing there is ridiculously cheap because no
one wants to live there). And we needed to be able to spend more
time on writing--nothing really happens when everyone is working
full-time jobs with conflicting schedules (as we were in Austin).
As of January 2003, we've all moved away from Midland, but the
time there was good. We practiced and worked on new material pretty
much every single night, in a place we rented (the basement of this
office building in downtown Midland). It was very strange to move
back to this town where three of us grew up, especially because
all our families and friends have since moved away. With nothing
to do but play music, we played music. There's a place about 45
minutes outside Midland called the Monahans
Sandhills state park, which is this great place where there
is nothing but sand dunes for several miles, and you can go there
and get away and not hear any city noise at all and you can't see
any city lights, and we went there a couple of times. That's where
we would have our band meetings.
How
do Explosions go about writing their songs? A few of your longer
tracks often appear to be 2 or 3 songs in one - why have them presented
under one banner as such?
ms: A song is a story to us. Often with a set storyline, and even
characters. So a song is composed of the whole story.... we hope
it doesn't seem like we haphazardly put 2 or 3 songs under one banner
and call that a song. We work very hard on transitions between certain
parts, and if the mood of the song shifts or changes suddenly, that's
how the story goes. This is just the way we write. It's pretty functional
too--if we can't figure out which direction a song should go, we
just try to think of it in terms of a story. For example, (and this
is kind of strange because we don't usually tell people the inspirations
or stories) we've told people that one of our new songs (called
"Six days at the bottom of the ocean") is about the Russian
sailors trapped in the Kursk submarine. We had written the first
half of the song and we couldn't figure out where it should go after
that. But then we started thinking about what it would actually
feel (and sound) like to be trapped in the submarine and the air
running out and the desperation rising. So we started playing and
came up with a part that sounds like that to us.
A lot of people have asked me to inquire about the inspiration
behind specific songs of yours, especially the new ones. The only
explicit reference I've heard you give in the past is to the director
Terrence Malick [responsible for "Badlands" and "The
Thin Red Line"] - as attributed to in your song from the last
album 'Have You Passed Through This Night?' Do you find the cinematic
medium to be the strongest influence on your music, or are there
other contributing factors that you're prepared to share with us?
ms: Film has always had a pretty profound influence on us.... and,
yes, especially Terrence Malick. His movies are so
unbelievably
poetic, the way they look, the way they move, the way they sound.
And there are certainly other specific movies that affect us, and
that make us want to shoot for a mood or an image or a feeling.
But I wouldn't say film is the strongest influence on us. I'd say
the biggest influence is our own sad little lives: the heartbreaks
and the mini-tragedies and the daily feelings and the mini-triumphs.
There's never any lack of inspiration there.
Personally speaking, your music has always inspired me the most
when I have associated it with a particularly strong image, like
listening to 'The Moon Is Down' at full blast on my walkman whilst
wandering aimlessly around Manchester's Piccadilly Gardens, on a
day where the sun was struggling to shine beyond the cover of clouds.
Do you harbour any ambitions to incorporate visual aspects to your
shows, such as projections, films or even artwork?
ms: That's a nice image. I will now always associate you with the
image of you wandering aimlessly through a garden while the sun
was barely peering through clouds.... there was actually a period
of about six months to a year where we would have projections on
stage behind us at every show we played in Austin (our friend did
these for us, we didn't really have a hand in filming the images
or putting them together). I think we all really liked it, mostly
because it gave people something else to lose themselves in, rather
than looking at us. But we haven't done that for a while, and I
kind of doubt we will again. Artwork is definitely a major thing
to us--we spend a lot of time thinking about album artwork or even
t-shirt artwork.
[Drummer Chris Hrasky did collaborate on a film called "The
Last Hope" with Kurt Volk. The band's music has also been
used in a film called "Cicadas."]
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